John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. If you determine the engine is indeed seized, start looking for the problem. If so I'd suspect a spun/galled main bearing. Do you have a good way to find out which one? Would splitting the tractor be the best way to remove the transmission from the equation? https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/John-Deere-1020_Basic-Overhaul-Kit-135-CID-Gas_BEKD4442LCB.html https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/MS873AL_Main-Bearing-Set-135-Gas_8281.htm jdemaris said: If so I'd suspect a spun/galled main bearing. John Deere 300b found in: Full Engine Gasket Set with crankshaft seals, Alternator Pulley Only, 12-Volt Front Rear Floodlight with Rubber Bezel (Hobbs Style), Oil Seal, Hydraulic Filter, Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit, Fuel.. 1020 farm tractor painted yellow - and has better hydraulics. Live and learn. You ought to pull some parts out and inspect before ordering parts. I'm sure we will be chatting again. I bought it off of a farm in Missouri. Many have power steering, power brakes, hydraulic reverser, etc. Every time I try to start it, I push the clutch in. [quote:e1945aa203= jdemaris ]oil pump picks up the water and sends it to a main bearing - and then the main bearing acts like a brake-band. I would for sure get it and maybe ask before hand about if it doesn't work out or looks like it is getting to be too big of a money pit how he would feel if you had to sell it. My uncle has told me that when I am done with it that I can sell it or give it to a neighbor. Normal parts should be easy to get as that is the same as the farm tractor. (reply to post at 19:07:21 10/07/14) [/quote:6aee1865a1] [quote:6aee1865a1= teddy52food ]Sounds like an insert piling up. "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" We sell a wide range of new aftermarket, used and rebuilt 300D replacement parts to get your machine back up and running quickly. [quote:e1945aa203= jdemaris ]oil pump picks up the water and sends it to a main bearing - and then the main bearing acts like a brake-band. My biggest concern is availablity of parts. TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. 2)pin and bushings in hoe are loose (easy to find parts?) John Deere 300B Loader and Backhoe Loader Service Manual TM-1087 Contents: 10 – General 20 – Engine 30 – Electrical System 40 – Power Train 50 – Hydraulic System 60 – Miscellaneous Components. Bucket capacity "publisher": { BTW: We also took out the spark plugs on the off chance it was some sort of compression thing stopping the motor. "description":"Discussion of JD 300 Industrial Backhoe Loader starting problems in the Tractor Talk forum followed by comments. (approx. I have the same tractor/backhoe and experienced the same problems with starting. meridian implement. I bought a big 1967 18,000 lb. Just a matter of searching until you find the problem. Union, West Virginia 24983. (reply to post at 06:00:52 10/09/14) After we did a valve job and got the tractor running, it ran for about 30 seconds before I shut it off. Have you aver heard of someone repairing the crack in the block? This post was edited by groker at 19:48:40 10/07/14. } away If it's cracked in front where the front loader bolts on - I've seen many that are patched up - but that's never going to be as strong as original unless you add some extra side-frame supports. The rods should have some side to side play on the crank, easy to feel just by pushing with your fingers. They were prone to cracking the engine block in front where the front loader bolts on. I've come across several beat-up used hoes recently - JUST the backhoe attachments themselves - and they were priced over $2000. Trouble was I did put some time and money in it to keep it going. If you are looking for the JD 300 industrial tractor go here.Covers All Years and Serial Numbers - … What happens when you try to turn the engine over by the flywheel with a screwdriver?? Could this be preventing the engine from turning? 2014 JOHN DEERE 310K 4x4 Loader Backhoe. Rock hard to turn? - in good working condition - I see many in the $8000 to $11,000 price ranges. With the plugs out you should be able to turn it by hand by turning the crank pulley or the fan, holding the belt tight. You will need to get the crank ground (if it is still grind able) before getting the bearings so you get the right size. Just a matter of searching until you find the problem. So I don't think I have to worry about him wanting it back. If you determine the engine is indeed seized, start looking for the problem. By the way, if I gave you a VIN number would you be able to decipher model year. Sometimes, the parts compatibility is determined by the serial number of your John Deere 300 Industrial/Construction, and that info should be listed on the part fit notes. I've fixed several over the years that seized a main- bearing from coolant in the oil. My Ford with the hoe and loader weighs 6800 lbs. Still had to purchase six mounting plates, a closed center conversion valve and supply-return hose/fittings. Normal parts should be easy to get as that is the same as the farm tractor. Hopefully these will do the trick. I don't suppose you know off the top of your head what one of these late 60's 300 weighs (for transport purposes) Thanks again for all the great input. Thinking it was a bad starter, I bought another. "logo": { Many have power steering, power brakes, hydraulic reverser, etc. Deere parts are available many places - there is NO shortage new or used. And trying to pull the sleeve up with it? Look at the color of the rod caps, if one is dark, pull the cap and look at the bearing. Also, the oil I recycled was clean. If so I'd suspect a spun/galled main bearing. Same problem, but I was able to verify that the crank shaft also moves slightly. This technical manual is intended for serve, repair and troubleshoot John Deere loader and backhoe loader JD300-B. Can't say I've ever seen that happen on a Dubuque tractor. I disconnected the hydraulic pump from the crank shaft to make sure it would not interfere with the engine turning. I'm sure we will be chatting again. 2013 JOHN DEERE 310SK 4x4 Loader Backhoe. Found one last month - it was parked in some guy's barnyard - attached to a 350 crawler-loader with a price tag of $3800 on it. By the way, if I gave you a VIN number would you be able to decipher model year. Also seen many Deere hoe take-offs - from the early 70s priced over $2000. jdemaris said: water gets in the oil-pan(reply to post at 06:00:52 10/09/14) [/quote:e1945aa203] When I first got the tractor and changed the oil there was at least a quart of water in there. I ran a new heavy cable directly to one of the starter mounting bolts and it instantly solved the problem. Hold turning pressure against the crank, see if one of the rods gets tight and won't move side to side. This unloads the hydraulic pump so it is easier to start.. Once it starts , turn the tee back out till it stops.. If you determine the engine is indeed seized, start looking for the problem. Any of that stuff is going to be a money pit,but at least you can start off at the RIGHT price. I just offered a guy $1200 for a very ratty looking 33 hoe off a Case 580CK and he didn't take my offer. By the way, I also installed one of the new geared starters and it is amazing how much faster it turns the engine over. When I got it home and did a compression test, one of the cylinders had no compression, one half and one full compression. The flywheel can turn with difficulty. "publisher": { "mainEntityOfPage": { I stopped and asked if he'd sell JUST the hoe - and found out the $3800 asking price IS just for the hoe attachment (I figure he's nuts). Also seen many Deere hoe take-offs - from the early 70s priced over $2000. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see So a piston would be stuck? There should also be some end play in the crank, not much but a clue if it is seized or not. But, being around 40 years sold, it going to have some wear and tear. If so that piston is binding. "dateModified": "2014-10-07", Thanks for the advice. I find it hard to believe the engine clutch is stuck AND the trans is seized - all at the same time. The cylinders looked great, no scratches or obvious problems. Parts ship within 24 hours. I just offered $2500 for a 300 with hoe that had a blown engine. Finally discovered the ground battery cable was attached to the sheet metal behind the engine and was not making good contact to the engine ground. Also, is there any possibility the power stearing pump or timing chain could bind up the motor? jdemaris said: If so I'd suspect a spun/galled main bearing. Buy It Now. Now when I try to start it the solenoid engages and the starter attempts to turn. Some of the specilaty parts may be found new and used ? This unloads the hydraulic pump so it is easier to start.. Once it starts , turn the tee back out till it stops.. Can't say I've ever seen that happen on a Dubuque tractor. Remember the side to side play in the rod? With later model hoes - e.g. 2014 JOHN DEERE 310K 4x4 Loader Backhoe. Any idea what could cause it? Did you find any coolant in the oil-pan when you pulled it off? How do you get the bearings out without removing the crankshaft? Hold turning pressure against the crank, see if one of the rods gets tight and won't move side to side. Sounds like you may be headed down the same path ? "@type": "ImageObject", The engine is very common and used in many other machines including 350 crawlers, 380 forklifts, power units, 820-830-1020 farm tractors, etc. Seller Information. If you have any use for it all the better. John Deere 300 B backhoe off local farm low hours 1139, very nice machine $8995.00 Updated: Mon, Dec 28, 2020 9:33 AM. ", } I let it run for 30 seconds or so and then shut it off because the hydraulic fluid was leaking in some of the hydraulic rams. My uncle has told me that when I am done with it that I can sell it or give it to a neighbor. AT21130 and AT21108. BTW: We also took out the spark plugs on the off chance it was some sort of compression thing stopping the motor. Deere parts are available many places - there is NO shortage new or used. Phone: (304) 200-7996 Call. The cylinders looked great, no scratches or obvious problems. "interactionType": "http://schema.org/CommentAction", Hopefully these will do the trick. TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. I took the head to a local machine shop and had them do a valve job. John Deere 300B Backhoe Parts New Aftermarket, Used and Rebuilt 300B Parts. We put it on with all new gaskets and checked the compression... it was up to spec. New (Other) C $114.17. May be used in conjunction with John Deere backhoes, mowers, and landscaping equip-ment. Have you aver heard of someone repairing the crack in the block? "logo": { Thanks for the info. "height": 57 I think, for the most part, the days of $1000 beat-up but running backhoes are gone. Live and learn. Save up to 60% off dealer pricing on parts for John Deere 300D Industrial/Constructions. Maybe the transmission is preventing the engine from turning. If caught before run too much - it's possible there is little to no crank damage. The hydraulic pump is totally disconnected from the engine. Some of the specilaty parts may be found new and used ? You said you disconnected the hydraulic pump and still no good, correct? If there is a foreign object wedged between moving parts, could manually turning the engine backwards unbind it? Not that equipment are not a money pit HaHa. I don't suppose you know off the top of your head what one of these late 60's 300 weighs (for transport purposes) Thanks again for all the great input. Thanks for the info. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", "name": "T Drewcock" I have the same tractor/backhoe and experienced the same problems with starting. [quote= groker ](quoted from post at 20:02:05 10/07/14) 1976 John Deere 300b Backhoe Loader (Industrial) 1020 CID 135 Gas Engine (Deere, 3 cylinder) I've been working on this tractor for a few weeks and am currently scratching my head. Looking for John Deere 300D Backhoe parts? John Deere 300D, 310D, 315D Backhoe Loaders workshop service repair manual includes: * Numbered table of contents easy to use so that you can find the information you need fast. Technical manual includes complete technical information, special instructions for repair, technical specifications, detailed illustrations and diagrams, special instructions on installation, troubleshoot and any additional information for John Deere loader and backhoe loader. "userInteractionCount": 12 When rebuilt and upgrade kit was used with three-seals per sleeve. I was a Deere mechanic for a long time. 1)The block has been cracked and patched (proper repair?) Let me know if you need pictures, video, or more information. I paid over $4,000US for a complete model 10A backhoe to use on my 1640. jdemaris said: water gets in the oil-pan(reply to post at 06:00:52 10/09/14) [/quote:e1945aa203] When I first got the tractor and changed the oil there was at least a quart of water in there. 3)Weight of machine (transporting may be an issue) I am greatful for the offer from him but I am looking to avoid a potential money pit. Still, same problem and the starter is still heating up. "author": { If so, the problem s still with the starter, battery, cables or solenoid. I bought a big 1967 18,000 lb. Or pay him something for it upfront and own it outright with no strings attached. Not that equipment are not a money pit HaHa. [/quote] [quote= groker ](quoted from post at 20:02:05 10/07/14) 1976 John Deere 300b Backhoe Loader (Industrial) 1020 CID 135 Gas Engine (Deere, 3 cylinder) I've been working on this tractor for a few weeks and am currently scratching my head. 300 Deere backhoes are very popular. The hydrolics worked just fine. naturally aspirataed. Parts are easy to get, new and used. 4791 HOUSTON, TX. This is the complete operator's manual for the John Deere 300 backhoe and backhoe loader. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. The first 300s have three cylinder 152 diesels or 135 gas engines. Is it possible to get the crankshaft out without spiting the tractor? Could be a seized piston, not likely since it was running, but worth checking. jdemaris said: water gets in the oil-pan(reply to post at 06:00:52 10/09/14) [/quote:e1945aa203] When I first got the tractor and changed the oil there was at least a quart of water in there. When rebuilt and upgrade kit was used with three-seals per sleeve. I didn't get it, somebody else paid $3500 for it. "width": 200, By the way, if I gave you a VIN number would you be able to decipher model year. It has a 9250A backhoe on it. Remember the side to side play in the rod? If it starts now , there might be a problem with the pump valving.. WoW ! Fuel Capacity. Thinking it was a bad starter, I bought another. I took of the head and one of the valves was burned up. So, figure the Deere is at least 1000 lbs. You didn't mention where the block is cracked. Now I have no hydrolics. If so that piston is binding. With differences in later 300s, at some point the 300 got a four cylinder engine instead of the three cylinder - I know the 300D is four cylinder. I have a small Ford 4000 backhoe about the same size as the Deere 300 - and the Ford tractor itself is 1000 lbs. However, at this point there are several possibilities that I know of. It did interfere with the mechanical fuel pump and I had to get a different one. Sounds like you may be headed down the same path ? Might still find them aftermarket since Deere no longer carries them. If so I'd suspect a spun/galled main bearing. It's probably worth at least $3000 as it is - even if it doesn't run. And trying to pull the sleeve up with it? Sounds like you may be headed down the same path ? Did you find any coolant in the oil-pan when you pulled it off? I don't find it surprising at all. Would splitting the tractor be the best way to remove the transmission from the equation? I still probabally came out better off than had I rented one. By the way, I also installed one of the new geared starters and it is amazing how much faster it turns the engine over. 7822 hours. I paid over $4,000US for a complete model 10A backhoe to use on my 1640. Buy with confidence our new, used, rebuilt parts come with our one year warranty. Remember the side to side play in the rod? Still had to purchase six mounting plates, a closed center conversion valve and supply-return hose/fittings. Re: JD 300 Industrial Backhoe Loader starting problems in reply to roy suomi, 10-07-2014 18:48:47 I disconnected the hydraulic pump from the crank shaft to make sure it … Seems you can't lose unless you dump $10,000 into it and then sell it for $5000. I've got a 300 sitting in my shop right now - it's a 1968 model with Tractor serial # T4P1C 076470T and engine serial # M41TP 117367T. Also what's the difference between a 300 and a 300b Thanks again. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Trouble was I did put some time and money in it to keep it going. The flap on the exhaust was open so I assume rain came in that way. Deere parts are available many places - there is NO shortage new or used. The flap on the exhaust was open so I assume rain came in that way. }, In fact, I've been looking for years - for a cheap hoe attachment that will fit my 1960 Deere 1010 crawler-loader. Any of that stuff is going to be a money pit,but at least you can start off at the RIGHT price. "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" I at least keep it under cover. You will need to get the crank ground (if it is still grind able) before getting the bearings so you get the right size. [/quote] Sounds like an insert piling up. Displacement. "width": 200, "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ttalk&th=1495825", I then took off the hydraulic pump in case this was preventing the engine from turning. 1)The block has been cracked and patched (proper repair?) - in good working condition - I see many in the $8000 to $11,000 price ranges. If you are interested in any other models of John Deere Service Manual click here. You've come to the right place. And, popular brands with good parts support bring more - and Deere is one of the most popular - for a small machine. Start removing accessories like power steering pump, oil pump, anything that turns with the engine. Tractor run's and Operates I Bought (Not Running in 10years?) Looking for John Deere 300B Backhoe parts? "width": 200, Pettibone Mulitihoe with Detroit Diesel power for $2300 in good running condition - but it went cheap because it's too big to truck for most people, and too slow to drive down the highway. A bare 300 diesel tractor weighs around 4900 lbs. "@type": "Organization", I found the following kit and bearing. John Deere JD 300 Loader/Backhoe. However, at this point there are several possibilities that I know of. The rods should have some side to side play on the crank, easy to feel just by pushing with your fingers. A bare 300 diesel tractor weighs around 4900 lbs. But it has some specific issues. After sitting and then starting - oil pump picks up the water and sends it to a main bearing - and then the main bearing acts like a brake-band. Need to determine just how hard the engine is to turn. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. 1976 John Deere 300b Backhoe Loader (Industrial), You ought to pull some parts out and inspect before ordering parts. 300 Deere backhoes are very popular. Also, is there any possibility the power stearing pump or timing chain could bind up the motor? Finally discovered the ground battery cable was attached to the sheet metal behind the engine and was not making good contact to the engine ground. You said you disconnected the hydraulic pump and still no good, correct? WoW ! } 1)The block has been cracked and patched (proper repair?) 1984 John Deere 300B 2WD Loader Backhoe, 1374 Hrs Showing, 2.5L Water Cooled 3-cyl Diesel Engine, 46hp, Canopy, Front Tires 11L-15, Rear Tires 14.9-24, Transmission 8 Speed Power Shuttle, Loader Bucket 80" Wide, 22" Deep, Backhoe Bucket 23" Wide, Length 28", 19" Deep, Note: Unable To Get Loader To Shift Into Low Range, SN: T0300BA706232 Thanks for the advice. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", There should also be some end play in the crank, not much but a clue if it is seized or not. So, figure the Deere is at least 1000 lbs. My biggest concern is availablity of parts. He may just be using you to fix it up then ask for it back later. You didn't mention where the block is cracked. Sounds right. Power Measured @ 2500 rpm. Any idea what could cause it? I just offered a guy $1200 for a very ratty looking 33 hoe off a Case 580CK and he didn't take my offer. Phone: (304) 200-7996 Call. 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